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    Simple Q&A

    Post by Painter on Sun Jan 03, 2010 4:29 pm

    If you have some questions about anything dealing with strategies or movesets post it here; also for helping with unfinished sets, evs and nature, ect...


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    Re: Simple Q&A

    Post by Nick E. Paradise on Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:59 pm

    After looking over some builds on smogon for pokemon i know that i've seen used well or like personally, i've decided to start my first team with a CB Flygon and a calm Max HP/SpD Milotic. I've figured out i need a stealth rock user to back up Flygon, but am unsure of who to utilize there. Obviously trying to stay mostly offensive.

    Here's what i'm looking at:

    Milotic - Calm @ Leftovers
    252 HP / 252 SpD / 6 SpA
    Ice Beam
    Rest
    Sleep Talk
    Surf

    Flygon - Adamant @ Choice Band
    252 Atk / 252 Spe / 6 HP
    Earthquake
    Fire Blast
    Outrage
    U-Turn

    Thoughts?
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    Re: Simple Q&A

    Post by Greene1516 on Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:57 pm

    Nick E. Paradise wrote:After looking over some builds on smogon for pokemon i know that i've seen used well or like personally, i've decided to start my first team with a CB Flygon and a calm Max HP/SpD Milotic. I've figured out i need a stealth rock user to back up Flygon, but am unsure of who to utilize there. Obviously trying to stay mostly offensive.

    Here's what i'm looking at:

    Milotic - Calm @ Leftovers
    252 HP / 252 SpD / 6 SpA
    Ice Beam
    Rest
    Sleep Talk
    Surf

    Flygon - Adamant @ Choice Band
    252 Atk / 252 Spe / 6 HP
    Earthquake
    Fire Blast
    Outrage
    U-Turn

    Thoughts?

    With Milotic I'd take a Bold nature rather than Calm just to make sure you can take some physical hits before doubling your Defense with Rest.

    And for the Flygon, take Naughty/Lonely nature instead so as not to reduce your Sp.A, and take Flamethrower over Fire Blast for accuracy, as the fire move is on there for Forry, Scizor and Skarmory; the former two are OHKO'ed by Flamethrower anyway, and the latter cannot hurt Flygon much so if you need to 2HKO with Flamethrower it is fine still but at least it is guaranteed to hit.


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    Re: Simple Q&A

    Post by Nick E. Paradise on Tue Jan 05, 2010 7:19 pm

    Greene1516 wrote:
    With Milotic I'd take a Bold nature rather than Calm just to make sure you can take some physical hits before doubling your Defense with Rest.

    And for the Flygon, take Naughty/Lonely nature instead so as not to reduce your Sp.A, and take Flamethrower over Fire Blast for accuracy, as the fire move is on there for Forry, Scizor and Skarmory; the former two are OHKO'ed by Flamethrower anyway, and the latter cannot hurt Flygon much so if you need to 2HKO with Flamethrower it is fine still but at least it is guaranteed to hit.

    Thank you so much! I'll make those adjustments. Any recommendations on where to go from here or on which SRer to use? I'm thinking that i may add a Scizor to the team too.
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    Re: Simple Q&A

    Post by Greene1516 on Tue Jan 05, 2010 7:39 pm

    Well since you are starting off it depends; if you want to keep your first battles to people of an equal experience level then an Aerodactyl is a perfect lead for Stealth Rock, but if you are trying to up your game Aero can be a little too predictable, so maybe Forretress, Azelf, Hippowdon, or even a less used Pokemon like Claydol or Donphan.


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    Re: Simple Q&A

    Post by Nick E. Paradise on Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:41 am

    Alright, I'm thinking Donphan will be my Stealth Rock lead, should i also put Rapid Spin on him? And How does Gengar, Scizor, and potentially Heatran sound to rough out the other 3 spots?
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    Re: Simple Q&A

    Post by Daiko on Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:27 pm

    Rapid Spin sounds good!

    Donphan @Leftovers
    (I forget its ability)
    Impish
    252 HP, 156 Sp.Def, 80 Def or Att

    -> Rapid Spin
    -> Stealth Rock
    -> Ice Shard
    -> Earthquake/Stone Edge

    For Scizor, go with the Banded set, Heatran's Scarfed Set and maybe a Life Orb Set on Gengar.

    I know these are Smogon's sets, but you would be best to stick with the original sets until you get a little more experienced at battling.
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    Re: Simple Q&A

    Post by Greene1516 on Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:44 pm

    Daiko wrote:Rapid Spin sounds good!

    Donphan @Leftovers
    (I forget its ability)
    Impish
    252 HP, 156 Sp.Def, 80 Def or Att

    -> Rapid Spin
    -> Stealth Rock
    -> Ice Shard
    -> Earthquake/Stone Edge

    For Scizor, go with the Banded set, Heatran's Scarfed Set and maybe a Life Orb Set on Gengar.

    I know these are Smogon's sets, but you would be best to stick with the original sets until you get a little more experienced at battling.

    Don't you mean standard sets and not original???

    And I would say putting Sp.D on Donphan is a waste since it still stay pitifully low even on max Sp.D. Just max HP and Defense.


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    Re: Simple Q&A

    Post by Nick E. Paradise on Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:47 pm

    Thanks guys! I'll take your suggestions into account.

    As soon as i copy my info down from Shoddy, i'll make a topic for my team!

    Thanks again for being so helpful! You really make this rookie feel welcome. Very Happy haha.
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    Re: Simple Q&A

    Post by Daiko on Thu Jan 07, 2010 12:57 pm

    Greene1516 wrote:

    Don't you mean standard sets and not original???

    And I would say putting Sp.D on Donphan is a waste since it still stay pitifully low even on max Sp.D. Just max HP and Defense.
    Yeah, I meant Standard sets Smile

    And thanks for brushing up the EV's. I checked Donphan's stats and noticed the pitiful Special Defence..
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    Re: Simple Q&A

    Post by crimsonstorm on Mon Jan 25, 2010 6:07 pm

    Nick E. Paradise wrote:After looking over some builds on smogon for pokemon i know that i've seen used well or like personally, i've decided to start my first team with a CB Flygon and a calm Max HP/SpD Milotic. I've figured out i need a stealth rock user to back up Flygon, but am unsure of who to utilize there. Obviously trying to stay mostly offensive.

    Here's what i'm looking at:

    Milotic - Calm @ Leftovers
    252 HP / 252 SpD / 6 SpA
    Ice Beam
    Rest
    Sleep Talk
    Surf

    Thoughts?



    I used to run mirror coat on Milotic and worked decently if you want to consider that. Since its bulky, it tends to work.

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